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Can't write/save Word 2000 documents to a 1 GB Lexmar USB flash drive/stick?
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Ant
2006-03-08 08:07:19 UTC
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Hello,

I have a weird issue with my father's old Toshiba Satellite
laptop/notebook with old Windows 98 SE (all critical updates; OEM).

He seems to have problems saving Word 2000 SP-3 (all updates) documents
to an USB flash drive/stick (Lexmar 1 GB; FAT32; E: drive). He had it
opened and saved on C: drive (HDD) and wanted to save to there. He keeps
getting "directory not found" errors. We tried shorter filenames (e.g.,
test.doc) since he originally had a very long name, but that didn't
help. Then, we tried using Windows Explorer to do copies from C: to E:,
but that failed with the same error as well. Also, please note that was
in the root directory of E: and the filenames he was trying to save are
in English.

I did noticed there were a bunch of other documents and
folders/directories on E: that were like ______ because they were in
Chinese (using IME?) in Windows 2000 and XP operating systems since he
uses multiple computers. It seems like Windows 98 can't read these
foreign names even though TwinBridge v4.98 (Chinese displayer and
writer) is installed? These NT5 OS' use Office 2002/XP and 2003 with
their latest service packs and patches.

Are there incompatibilites with this setup to cause these save errors?

Thank you in advance. :)

Sincerely yours,
Phillip Pi
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Bill Blanton
2006-03-09 01:12:49 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello,
I have a weird issue with my father's old Toshiba Satellite laptop/notebook with old Windows 98 SE (all critical updates; OEM).
drive). He had it opened and saved on C: drive (HDD) and wanted to save to there. He keeps getting "directory not found" errors.
We tried shorter filenames (e.g., test.doc) since he originally had a very long name, but that didn't help. Then, we tried using
Windows Explorer to do copies from C: to E:, but that failed with the same error as well. Also, please note that was in the root
directory of E: and the filenames he was trying to save are in English.
I did noticed there were a bunch of other documents and folders/directories on E: that were like ______ because they were in
Chinese (using IME?) in Windows 2000 and XP operating systems since he uses multiple computers.
Are you sure it is formatted FAT32 and not FAT(16)? FAT has a 512 dir
entry limit in the root. Windows "Long names" use at least 2 entries
per. I would imagine chinese long names use a lot more. If FAT32, there
is a 64k directory entry limit. Much better than FAT16, but not out of
reach. Try moving some files and/or folders out of the root. Subdivide.
Ant
2006-03-09 07:10:59 UTC
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Post by Bill Blanton
Post by Ant
Hello,
I have a weird issue with my father's old Toshiba Satellite laptop/notebook with old Windows 98 SE (all critical updates; OEM).
drive). He had it opened and saved on C: drive (HDD) and wanted to save to there. He keeps getting "directory not found" errors.
We tried shorter filenames (e.g., test.doc) since he originally had a very long name, but that didn't help. Then, we tried using
Windows Explorer to do copies from C: to E:, but that failed with the same error as well. Also, please note that was in the root
directory of E: and the filenames he was trying to save are in English.
I did noticed there were a bunch of other documents and folders/directories on E: that were like ______ because they were in
Chinese (using IME?) in Windows 2000 and XP operating systems since he uses multiple computers.
Are you sure it is formatted FAT32 and not FAT(16)? FAT has a 512 dir
entry limit in the root. Windows "Long names" use at least 2 entries
per. I would imagine chinese long names use a lot more. If FAT32, there
is a 64k directory entry limit. Much better than FAT16, but not out of
reach. Try moving some files and/or folders out of the root. Subdivide.
I know it was FAT, but not sure which one. I read
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/tree/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/0b791ffaa641c997?rnum=1&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&_done=/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/b1b674b6e020243d?lnk=st&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&rnum=10&#doc_d90681e7c826235b
(or http://tinyurl.com/fcpd7 if the first link fails). You were right
about having a limit in thr oot location. Does NTFS and other FS' have
also this problem?
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Tim Slattery
2006-03-09 13:44:12 UTC
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Post by Ant
I know it was FAT, but not sure which one. I read
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/tree/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/0b791ffaa641c997?rnum=1&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&_done=/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/b1b674b6e020243d?lnk=st&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&rnum=10&#doc_d90681e7c826235b
(or http://tinyurl.com/fcpd7 if the first link fails). You were right
about having a limit in thr oot location. Does NTFS and other FS' have
also this problem?
NTFS does not have a limit on directory size, including the root
directory. But the file system used more space for its various
overhead purposes, which makes it less suitable for smaller devices.
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Phillip Pi
2006-03-09 23:13:19 UTC
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Post by Tim Slattery
Post by Ant
I know it was FAT, but not sure which one. I read
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/tree/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/0b791ffaa641c997?rnum=1&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&_done=/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/b1b674b6e020243d?lnk=st&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&rnum=10&#doc_d90681e7c826235b
(or http://tinyurl.com/fcpd7 if the first link fails). You were right
about having a limit in thr oot location. Does NTFS and other FS' have
also this problem?
NTFS does not have a limit on directory size, including the root
directory. But the file system used more space for its various
overhead purposes, which makes it less suitable for smaller devices.
Thanks. :)
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AlmostBob
2006-03-10 14:05:54 UTC
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Post by Ant
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2006-03-11 02:28:01 UTC
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Post by AlmostBob
Anyone else find black humor in
"Software Quality Assurance" & "Symantec"
"Software" and "Quality Assurance" do it for me...
Ant
2006-03-22 07:21:16 UTC
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Post by Alan Raskin
Post by AlmostBob
Anyone else find black humor in
"Software Quality Assurance" & "Symantec"
"Software" and "Quality Assurance" do it for me...
Oh sure, let's see you do better.
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Pebble
2006-03-11 10:50:06 UTC
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Post by AlmostBob
Anyone else find black humor in
"Software Quality Assurance" & "Symantec"
Definitely an oxymoron . . . . . .
Ant
2006-03-22 07:21:41 UTC
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Post by Pebble
Anyone else find black humor in "Software Quality Assurance" & "Symantec"
Definitely an oxymoron . . . . . .
Oh sure, let's see you do better.
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Franc Zabkar
2006-03-09 07:41:47 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello,
I have a weird issue with my father's old Toshiba Satellite
laptop/notebook with old Windows 98 SE (all critical updates; OEM).
He seems to have problems saving Word 2000 SP-3 (all updates) documents
to an USB flash drive/stick (Lexmar 1 GB; FAT32; E: drive). He had it
opened and saved on C: drive (HDD) and wanted to save to there. He keeps
getting "directory not found" errors. We tried shorter filenames (e.g.,
test.doc) since he originally had a very long name, but that didn't
help. Then, we tried using Windows Explorer to do copies from C: to E:,
but that failed with the same error as well. Also, please note that was
in the root directory of E: and the filenames he was trying to save are
in English.
I did noticed there were a bunch of other documents and
folders/directories on E: that were like ______ because they were in
Chinese (using IME?) in Windows 2000 and XP operating systems since he
uses multiple computers. It seems like Windows 98 can't read these
foreign names even though TwinBridge v4.98 (Chinese displayer and
writer) is installed? These NT5 OS' use Office 2002/XP and 2003 with
their latest service packs and patches.
Are there incompatibilites with this setup to cause these save errors?
Thank you in advance. :)
Sincerely yours,
Phillip Pi
I believe Explorer is attempting to display the contents of your root
directory but is having trouble with certain characters in the
filenames and/or subdirectory names. Have you tried copying your files
from a DOS prompt?

In the past I had an issue with a particular incoming email message
that would cause my email client (Eudora) to crash. Here is an outline
of my problem and how I resolved it:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/msg/a132758bc2263af1?dmode=source&hl=en

The problem was that the message contained non-English characters in
the subject header, and the message contained an attachment. It
appears that Eudora was attempting to save or process the attachment
by creating a file with the same name as the message header. The
subject contained the word "Voscilo", where the "s" and "c" were
special accented characters. For some strange reason Eudora
interpreted the "sc" as "\032\100\011" which meant that it was now
looking for a non-existent subdirectory of that name.

Here is the error message:

Could not open the file C:\Eudora\Attach\Vo\032\100\011ilo.ems for
writing
Cause: No such file or directory exists

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Phillip Pi
2006-03-09 23:14:52 UTC
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Post by Franc Zabkar
Post by Ant
Hello,
I have a weird issue with my father's old Toshiba Satellite
laptop/notebook with old Windows 98 SE (all critical updates; OEM).
He seems to have problems saving Word 2000 SP-3 (all updates) documents
to an USB flash drive/stick (Lexmar 1 GB; FAT32; E: drive). He had it
opened and saved on C: drive (HDD) and wanted to save to there. He keeps
getting "directory not found" errors. We tried shorter filenames (e.g.,
test.doc) since he originally had a very long name, but that didn't
help. Then, we tried using Windows Explorer to do copies from C: to E:,
but that failed with the same error as well. Also, please note that was
in the root directory of E: and the filenames he was trying to save are
in English.
I did noticed there were a bunch of other documents and
folders/directories on E: that were like ______ because they were in
Chinese (using IME?) in Windows 2000 and XP operating systems since he
uses multiple computers. It seems like Windows 98 can't read these
foreign names even though TwinBridge v4.98 (Chinese displayer and
writer) is installed? These NT5 OS' use Office 2002/XP and 2003 with
their latest service packs and patches.
Are there incompatibilites with this setup to cause these save errors?
Thank you in advance. :)
Sincerely yours,
Phillip Pi
I believe Explorer is attempting to display the contents of your root
directory but is having trouble with certain characters in the
filenames and/or subdirectory names. Have you tried copying your files
from a DOS prompt?
In the past I had an issue with a particular incoming email message
that would cause my email client (Eudora) to crash. Here is an outline
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/msg/a132758bc2263af1?dmode=source&hl=en
The problem was that the message contained non-English characters in
the subject header, and the message contained an attachment. It
appears that Eudora was attempting to save or process the attachment
by creating a file with the same name as the message header. The
subject contained the word "Voscilo", where the "s" and "c" were
special accented characters. For some strange reason Eudora
interpreted the "sc" as "\032\100\011" which meant that it was now
looking for a non-existent subdirectory of that name.
Could not open the file C:\Eudora\Attach\Vo\032\100\011ilo.ems for
writing
Cause: No such file or directory exists
Actually, it wasn't the Chinese characters since we were able to
reproduce it in 2K and XP. Since the file system was FAT (16 or 32 -- I
don't remember), there was a limitation on the number of files and
folders/directories to be in the root location after reading
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/tree/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/0b791ffaa641c997?rnum=1&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&_done=/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/browse_frm/thread/7885f3dbcf9eda9e/b1b674b6e020243d?lnk=st&q=%22directory+or+file+cannot+be+created.%22+USB&rnum=10&#doc_d90681e7c826235b
(or http://tinyurl.com/fcpd7 if the first link fails).
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ISP/Symantec Online Services
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
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